Salvation by love

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The foundation of my theology is that God has to be perfect in order for Him to be God, that He has to be far better than the holiest person on earth.
While looking at all religions, it seems likely to me that God’s revelation to man was the life, death and resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth who taught us to even love our worst enemies.
Whilst all Christians have always believed that God’s grace is necessary for salvation, Roman Catholics believe that additional good works are necessary, as written in the book of James, whilst Protestants largely ignore the book of James and focus on Paul who allegedly taught one is saved by pure grace.
Among Protestants, Arminians teach that one must make the free choice to accept this grace whereas Calvinist teach that God forces some people to accept His grace whereas the others are still heading to hell.
My own thoughts based on the perfection of God have led me to the following reasoning:

1) God wants every human to enjoy an everlasting relationship with him
2) Humans commit many sins which are hurting God and which He cannot merely forget
3) Thus, God is going to ultimately forgive every sin to everyone for it is Love which defines His being
4) God will propose to everybody to spend eternity with Him

Does that mean that everyone will be in Heaven? Probably not, because at least some humans, like many Pharisees described in the Gospels, are going to reject the God revealed in Jesus of Nazareth.
And God will respect their free will. And if there is absolutely no hope of redemption for them, they will eventually cease to exist.

I personally know that I will be in Heaven because God loves me, I love Him and His love is far greater than all my transgressions. And I have the genuine desire to get closer to this ultimate Love by following Jesus Christ who defeated death and sin at the cross and the empty tomb.

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24 responses to “Salvation by love”

  1. theolunke says :

    Hm – da findet sich doch eine ordentliche Portion All-Versöhnung darin, oder? Eine Position, die ich sehr gerne glauben WÜRDE … aber die ich, meiner Überzeugung nach, in der Bibel einfach nicht finde.
    Ich würde dir soweit zustimmen: Gott bietet in seiner Liebe ALLEN die Vergebung an .. aber viele Menschen wollen nichts davon wissen (auf der Erde) – sie laufen ihren eigenen Götzen nach und vertrauen darauf, dass DIESE ihnen Rettung bringen wird (Geld, Ruhm, Fun, Selbstverwirklichung, etc.) … aber in all diesen Fällen hat der Tod das letzte Wort!

    Nur Jesus hat den Tod besiegt, das Lösegeld bezahlt und die Schuld von uns genommen (Begriffe, wie die Bibel das beschreibt) – wenn wir uns GEGEN Jesus entscheiden, dann entscheiden wir uns freiwillig für eine Ewigkeit OHNE Gott, OHNE Liebe, OHNE Hoffnung, OHNE Freundschaft, OHNE Schönheit; OHNE … denn all das ist bei Gott. Das ist dann die wahre selbst gewählte Hölle :(

    • lotharson says :

      Hallo, ich gehe bald zum See, also ganz kurz: ich glaube leider nicht, dass alle versöhnt sein werden, weil manche Menschen die Liebe Gottes ABLEHNEN werden.

      Bis dann und liebe Grüsse, vielen Dank für den Kommentar!

    • lotharson says :

      Hey Theolunke!

      Ich habe noch Problem mit meinem Blog, versehentlich habe ich vermutlich mehrmals gewählt, deinen Blog zu verfolgen und nicht mehr zu verfolgen :=)
      Hoffentlich bist du nicht nachtragen :=)

      Unser Hauptunterschied besteht wahrscheinlich darin, dass ich glaube, dass diese Menschen, die Gott nicht wollen, nicht mehr existieren werden.

      Als guten Gott wird sie Gott aus Mitleid heraus vernichten.

      Liebe Grüsse aus Lothringen und Gottes Segen für das Wochenende!

    • Lennart says :

      ja an theolunke, so wie du schreibst: “….Das ist dann die wahre selbst gewählte Hölle” :( …….wäre ja dann bei ‘Nichtexistenz’ nicht mehr zu empfinden…oder?

      • lotharson says :

        Hallo Lennart,

        wenn ich mich nicht irre, glaubt Theolunke an eine ewige Hölle, wobei das Leiden eine Konsequenz des Getrenntseins mit Gott ist.

        Ich lehne diese Idee ab, und glaube, dass LETZENDLICH der Mensch aufhört zu existieren. Ich denke generell nicht, dass Seelen an sich unsterblich sind.

        Aber ich denke schon, dass vor diesem Verschwinden der Mensch irgendwie für seine eigenen Sünden bezahlen muss, das heißt für alle die Gelegenheiten, wo er die goldene Regel verletzt hat und seine Mitmenschen Schmerz zugefügt hat.

        Ich kann mir natürlich nicht vorstellen, dass Hitler sofort nach seinem Tod vernichtet würde, das wäre ja zu einfach.

        • Lennart says :

          @lotharson:
          Zu deiner Ansicht über ‘theolunkes’ Erkenntnis – ohne Feindseligkeit: Nachdem du ja die Bibel nicht als Völlig Gottes Wort anerkennst ist es wohl mühsam dir 1. Kor. 3,2 (sogar ‘verdünnte Milch’) zu unterstellen?
          Doch glaube ich (die Bibel hat sich in meinem Leben als Gottes Wort bewiesen) schon und auch an ein ewiges Getrenntsein von Gott, für die die JESU Erlösungswerk hier auf Erden abgelehnt haben. Ich will und kann das Kreuz – ich meine nicht das hölzerne Gestell ! – nicht entleeren.

  2. irrationalitydestroyer says :

    I don’t want to sound rude, but I have to wonder why people seem to forget Orthodox Christians. It is possible you included them with the Roman Catholics, given that we both are pretty much the same, just separated. Still, I’m feeling certain marginalization to the ancestral Christians in favor of a sect that has only 5 centuries of existence and doesn’t represent Christianity well.

    • lotharson says :

      Sorry, there are many aspects of Eastern Orthodoxy which I like and admire.

      For the sake of brevity, I’ve left that out here, because I’m speaking in a Western context.

      Lovely greetings and God’s blessings!

    • xon-xoff says :

      @ irrationalitydestroyer

      “… a sect that has only 5 centuries of existence and doesn’t represent Christianity well.”

      if i may please, your assertion makes me want to ask: what Christianity represents Christianity well? and, how do you make that determination?

      cheers

    • jesuswithoutbaggage says :

      Destroyer, as a westerner I understand Roman Catholicism better, but I have a greater appreciation for the Eastern church and consider it the more authentic to the early church.

  3. John says :

    It is interesting to note that the image you featured on this posting is a traditional rendering of the light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel that all human beings see when they are going through the death-and-dying Process.
    That having been said please find an Illuminated Understanding of death and dying via these two references

    http://www.adidam.org/death_and_dying/index.html

    http://www.aboutadidam.org/dying_death_and_beyond/index.html

  4. michaeleeast says :

    I don’t believe that anyone will go to hell or cease to exist.
    The organizing principle of the universe is Love
    and each soul will go to its loved ones.
    God always gives another chance.
    And there will always be a place for each soul to go.
    A place within God’s Love.

    • lotharson says :

      Hello Mike!

      “God always gives another chance.”
      I agree.

      But what should God do with Adolf Hitler?

      He cannot truly desire Him without being hypocritical.
      If he turns him into a loving person, Adolf Hitler will no longer be Adolf Hitler.

      So even if God does not annihilate him but change him, Adolf Hitler will not live eternally.

      But this is probably related to the issue of free will I am handling on my series about Calvinism.

      Cheers.

    • Lennart says :

      Ich halte mich da lieber an das Wort Jesu: “……….glaubt es nicht!”
      Markus 13.21

  5. jesuswithoutbaggage says :

    Good post Lothar. You said a lot of great stuff in a very brief article.

    • jesuswithoutbaggage says :

      I particularly like your for statements:

      1) God wants every human to enjoy an everlasting relationship with him
      2) Humans commit many sins which are hurting God and which He cannot merely forget
      3) Thus, God is going to ultimately forgive every sin to everyone for it is Love which defines His being
      4) God will propose to everybody to spend eternity with Him

      • Gun says :

        1) We are ONE with the source of all that is but this truth must be revealed to us as it was to all Masters who got to know that we must seek God within
        2) The source is eternal love that knows no hurt and we get to know this truth when reconnecting or remembering who we are
        3) As ALL THAT IS is LOVE there is nothing to forgive
        4) Everybody will “in due time” be remembering the home

  6. labreuer says :

    Whilst all Christians have always believed that God’s grace is necessary for salvation, Roman Catholics believe that additional good works are necessary, as written in the book of James, whilst Protestants largely ignore the book of James and focuse on Paul who allegedly taught one is saved by pure grace.

    This is… a bit simplistic. I think a better way to look at it is to ask why, at the deepest level, are you doing something the Bible says to do? Is it because you actually want the [naturalistic] result of the action, or do you want to do something that you would only ever do if God said he’d reward you for doing it? What I’m getting at here is whether there is a ‘synthetic’/’fake’/’arbitrary’ reward for truly obeying God, or whether obedience itself produces the reward.

    Jesus says, quite plainly: “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word”. If you love Jesus you will obey him. Note that Jesus only did what he saw his father doing. Jesus obeyed God. But it wasn’t so he’d “get a cookie” as the parlance goes; he did it because he wanted what would happen if he obeyed.

    Consider this: “If you want to drive safely, you will stop at red lights and stop signs.” The spirit of the law is safety, the ‘letter’ of stopping at red lights and stop signs is a way to communicate this spirit, to sketch it out, to provide scaffolding. The actual spirit of the law is incommunicable because [I believe] it is infinite. Romans 10:4 says that “Jesus is the telos of the law”; I think this ought to be interpreted as Jesus being the fullest possible expression of what is actually an infinite law. What is that law? How reality works, deep down.

    Romans 9:30-10:13 is a fascinating passage, for I think it upends the traditional Protestant idea that Jesus did away with the law. 9:30-32 talks as if the Israelites could have reached the ‘law’, if only they had used faith as a means of pursuit, instead of “a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge” (10:2). Abraham did pursue the law by faith, just like the rest of the list in Hebrews 11. What is faith, but trust in the person of God? Faith would have been Adam and Eve believing God and refusing the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Faith would have been Cain believing God and not murdering his brother.

    Surely you are aware of children who love to obey the letter of the law, while grossly violating the spirit of the law. I think it is precisely this difference which is gotten at by the issue of works vs. faith/grace. Do you merely believe that if you can interpret what you do such that it is in obedience to the Bible, God will smile on you? Or do you believe that you must want what God wants, being forever open to his guidance for how you’ve erred (because you, being finite, are always in danger of erring as you try and understand an infinite concept more and more)?

  7. michaeleeast says :

    Lotharson,

    This is a very nice post.
    I agree entirely with your assessment of God as Love.
    And that we are saved through Love.
    I don’t think that anyone will cease to exist.
    I believe that they will continue to learn until they
    arrive at the conclusion that God’s ways are better.
    Then they too will live with God.

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